Ever heard of this? http://www.deepki.com/en/
Does this sound interesting or nothing new?
Hey Francesco Bonadiman, I gave it a look and I must say that from the presentation it seems a very nice idea and it is able to overcome some doubts that the consumer may have about their bills. For this reason, it seems much more like a trusted friend that gives you advices reading your invoices data than a real energy consumption analyser. With the pro/con that everything is automated and give a personalized answer almost in real time.
About the solution itself, the most is reserved to the algorithms they use and the fact that they just harvest usual data will help to identify issues related to people's behaviour and not on the single elements in the house. They say that they do talk with the person, but they also say that they won't do energy audits. The former is very good for tackling bad energy consumption behaviours, while the latter has much more potential and can give results in shorter time about all the equipment you are using.
Anyway, I believe this sector biggest issue is how to overcome people's rejection to let other people to see and use sensible data. The technology is here, is simple and it is the proper time since it is mandatory to substitute old meters with smart meters. Moreover, companies doing the same are already on the market with many different solutions. On the other side, scaling up outside France for them will be quite difficult if the explanations are only made in French, like the videos.
Hi Francesco! There are many startups in that particular field, but this one seems particularly good, as no hardware is required.
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Oh nice, I will Though it is harder for me, not being 100% within the background! thanks!
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I checked the site, video was in French, so I could have easily missed some vital details. I feel like I didn't fully understand what their product does. It seems to be selling, so it probably does something useful.
I understood that they are offering have some kind of software (that uses web interface?). It is possible to feed in some sort of data (presumably that describes energy consumption of a building or some buildings, based on pictures it seems to ask for the energy bill). Then the software conducts statistical analysis of the data and gives some sort of results.
I'm left with the following questions: What kind of data is the input data? Is it total monthly energy consumption, hourly consumption data or something else? What kind of analysis of data is offered? Jacopo Sala, you seemed impressed by their product, maybe you could briefly describe, what it does? What is the input and what is the output of their magical algorithms?
I really liked the presentation of their website and the simplicity of their solution. On the other hand, the solution is not really clear, most of it is in fact explained in the videos in French and I think it may be a very shallow analysis and it is quite difficult to track every consumption.
The process to implement the solution takes around five months, they come to your house, they have a talk with you to understand which appliances do you have in your house. They have a rough estimate of the consumption given by the different appliances (value obtained from datasheet) and gets in contact with the person itself. The input data will then be only the bill, the one that you receive monthly or bimonthly and with the general data about your consumption. So I believe they have the total consumption and the different consumptions divided on the different tariffs. The output is a graphical visualisation of your consumption. The overall strength of the product its the simplicity of the process and the support they can give to common people.
Anyway as it was said by Enrico Furnari there are plenty of people working over data analysis, energy efficiency and with much better algorithms and solutions. At least from the point of view of the amount of energy saved or money saved due to a shifted consumption. Energy audits give you the level of "green" house that you have, but can also spot structural issues that make you consume tonns of energy more than necessary. Just for an example, you can halve your consumption adding a coating system to old houses.
So, my point as an engineer is that is not very useful and the benefitial effect introduced is very very low. I didn't see anything about the price, but I think the gain money as a percentage of the reduced consumption/cost.
There is also the feeling in Digital and in Energy that nobody is working with this kind of service. That's because the diffusion of more invasive analysis is hindered by consumers. A guy at the smart city expo 2015 was saying that they developed a good solution, but in order to diffuse it in Catalonia they had to spend a lot of time going house by house and explaining how the entire solution will work. This service is something much more easier and it could actually
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